Poll-topper Perrot eyes top Commerce & Employment job

A PICTURE of the new States began to form yesterday as successful candidates set their sights for ministerial positions.

Roger Perrot

A PICTURE of the new States began to form yesterday as successful candidates set their sights for ministerial positions.

West poll-topper Roger Perrot, pictured, confirmed it was his intention to stand for Commerce and Employment minister.

Newcomer Gavin St Pier said he was looking to fill the boots of Charles Parkinson as Treasury and Resources minister. Deputy Parkinson’s retirement had been a factor in his decision to become a deputy.

The man who took over from Carol Steere as Education minister, Robert Sillars, also began making his case to hold on to the portfolio.

And former Environment minister David De Lisle is hoping to reclaim the position after a successful election campaign and the retirement of Peter Sirrett.

Comments for: "Poll-topper Perrot eyes top Commerce & Employment job"


Congratulations to Roger ....and hope your neck gets better.


The first signs of the Guernsey Spring?

Chris (Berkshire)

Well done - must have been meeting me !!

Dave Haslam

Seeing as we are now in the realms of non public control again, I suggest that ALL deputies take heed of the island publics wish for change, and let some of this new blood take ministerial positions if they are so qualified.


If David De Lisle has his way, nothing would ever be built on this Island. Not even houses for our children. Bring on I.W.V.and more 'common sense.'

Guern abroad

The way I see most new housing being built on Guernsey is for the select few. It is the States who have been building houses for the many.

You need a bit of everything to get balance, so all views are important in the decision making process.

A steady helm in Planning is vital to ensure the Island remains the attractive place people want to live in, it is always a balance but one that has to be tended to carefully.

New housing is needed in any community but so is responsible population control be it incoming migration or birth expectations.

Guern abroad

I took all the election votes and sliced the entire cake by descending votes, and only 6 deputies who got in would who in this scenario would be out. It is interesting to see the volume and distribution of votes.


Guern abroad

I think I would be much more interested if I had a clue about what you were trying to say

Guern abroad

If you take every deputy who stood with their number of votes and sorted it on votes descending, apart from 6 deputies the result would have been the same.

So those who want IWW it looked like taking that simple approach I did would make very little difference to the outcome unlike the comments about IWW infer.

Interestingly St Peter Port North and South did the worst of all Deputies when looking at the whole picture sorted by number of votes, this however may be down to the size of catchment areas.


To Guern abroad

You can't 'play' with the votes like that as the voting pattern would be totally different if there was IWV.


I think he`s trying to say he baked a big cake for all the new deputies but 6 of them won`t be getting a piece?.


Some of the Deputies are already aware of my views but for the rest of you I propose you take stead of the mistakes that others have made and bring something fresh to the States during what will be a long term of office if you don't get stuck in!

A huge debate in the States followed a rather limp proposition from social security in their efforts to help the poor which included a total revamp of rent rebates in social housing.

It is my belief that more affordable housing should be offered to first time buyers as it is virtually impossible to step onto the ladder in the current climate.

A fresh approach into helping and supporting people in social housing that would like to make the step into planning to become first time buyers is essential, a scheme that helps the transitional process clearer and affordable will not only secure futures for the people that want to help themselves but aid the huge waiting list for social housing as properties will become available to the people that need them.

It is clear that the next States of deliberation have many areas to address and some may look upon it as a helpless task however it’s important to many Islanders that the new States listen, pause and then reflect the electrets voice and in doing so implements our concerns.

Key policies will hamper efforts for politicians to rectify previous States decisions and I understand that it will be a long drawn out process however the time to act is now!



Re first time buyers affordable housing.The States have tried two or three schemes in the past which seem to have blown up in their faces

Take Les Pecqueries at La Passee for example. With States help in 1994/1995 new builds were made available to selected applicants at 75K under a home for workers scheme. I believe there was supposed to be some legal contract to the effect that any subsequent sell on would be limited to whatever the inflation rate amounted to since the first purchase.The wording of that legal document must have been flawed because within two or three years they were being sold on nearer the 100K mark and I am told that one of those 75K new builds has been sold in excess of 380K this year,albeit seventeen years later

I believe the same thing has happened with similar schemes at the old Police HQ flats at Amherst and again at Grandes Maisons Road St Sampsons

Unless the States somehow tighten up the wording on the sell on contract in any new scheme the best bet at present seems to be their flourishing partial ownership scheme

Dave Jones


You are spot on in your assessment of passed housing mistakes when it came to theses sites.

The real problem was, that the land was lost forever to social housing and once the ridiculously low sale clause (5 years) was up the houses were sold on at significant profit. So a handful of people did very well out of it.

Partial ownership has proved to be the way forward, with people taking out the equity but not the house, so we have a scheme that can be repeated several times. We need to do many more of these under this scheme as it has proved extremely popular for all those involved.


Agreed that more partial ownership is the way forward.

Would like to think these new sites will be spread island wide and not restricted to St Sampsons & St Peter Port.

I still echo my words that a scheme that helps the transitional process clearer to those people in social housing who want to help themselves.

George Wilkinson

Not quite correct, Deputy Jones.

The 34 first time buyer units developed back in 2001 at Grandes Maisons Road, St Sampson's (known as Courtil Leonie) have been maintained as an ongoing pool of affordable housing.

The States Housing Authority (as it was at that time) only applied sale price restrictions on the developer, but the developer devised a legal mechanism to impose equivalent sale price controls on subsequent owners - which continue today, linking maximum resale prices to the lower quartile of the House Price Index.

This has worked well, with many of the original purchasers having used Courtil Leonie as a stepping stone to move on to market-priced housing - making way for others to take on the property at a reduced price.

However, the States Housing Authority/Department appears to have shown no subsequent interest in either the Courtil Leonie development itself or its ongoing price control mechanism.


George Wilkinson

A quick search under 'Courtil Leonie'

on the local house prices site www.guernseypropertyprices.com shows that Courtil Leonie flats are now selling at 280K plus and houses at 300K plus

I hope that is not regarded as reduced prices otherwise our younger generation are indeed in deep doodoo

George Wilkinson


It seems to me the fact that properties have sold for the maximum permitted amount proves that prices are reduced - they would have fetched more without controls.

You are right that £280k is a lot of money but I doubt you could get 100% ownership of a modern 2 bedroom house with its own private garden and parking for that amount anywhere else in Guernsey; the current median realty purchase price is £403,750.

The sale prices you have searched tie in with the lower quartile of the States Property Prices Bulletin see table 4.1.2 at http://www.gov.gg/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=5946&p=0

The current lower quartile figure is £280,250 but it has been as high as £308,750.

I'm not sure now, but this quartile used to be taken by the Housing Authority/Department to represent "affordable".

Two properties at Courtil Leonie have sold for more than £300,000 which was due to:

(a) both of them having had a conservatory added; and

(b) one of them being a 3 bedroom house - there are six of these which cost 10% more to start with and are allowed to be sold for 10% more than the current lower quartile figure.

Anyway, my original point to Dave Jones was that partial ownership is not necessarily the only way forward and I can't see how he can call Courtil Leonie a mistake. Prices have only increased in line with the market, which I believe would be substantially the same for a partial ownership property with the Guernsey Housing Association.



I have been reminded that the prices shown on www.guernseypropertyprices.com are for realty only and roughly 5% should be added to the prices shown to get the actual price paid

It probably makes very little difference to the good points you have made about the useful controls placed on the resales at Courtil Leonie and should be borne in mind for future similar developments

George Wilkinson


That's right, and the numbers I have quoted are all for realty only. The Courtil Leonie price controls allow standard 5% personalty on top.

Another good aspect of these price controls is that if the lower quartile falls, a property can still be sold for upto its original purchase price plus costs - in effect any subsidy element can be used as a buffer against the possibility of negative equity. What better start on the property ladder could a first time buyer have than that?


Roger's manifesto was very short, I have a suggestion to shorten it further "vote Perrot get Trott".

Tim HJ Rogers

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Town Dweller

I agree, Perrot for Commerce. I suggest he steers well clear of Education and the debate surrounding the schools though.