Sunday trading law 'will be reviewed'

COMMERCE and Employment is committed to a full review of Sunday trading this term, its minister has assured doubters.

COMMERCE and Employment is committed to a full review of Sunday trading this term, its minister has assured doubters.

Kevin Stewart was forced to make the promise after a requete submitted by Deputy Mike Hadley for a trial 12-month suspension of the law was defeated by 28 votes to 13.

Deputy Stewart, pictured, said the decision was the right result.

'It was in the interest of good governance. We shouldn't be deciding things without a proper report before the States.'

Comments for: "Sunday trading law 'will be reviewed'"

Ed

The fact that Stewart wants "a proper report" to be made before the idea is endorsed, and the "committed" nature displayed when producing the review implies that there is at least some degree of judiciousness present within the States. I sincerely hope that they acknowledge their erroneous ideas of the past and replace them with notions that are more informed and wise- appreciating the importance of biodiversity, natural cycles and thus opting to reject the building plans for Belle Greve and other proposed social housing sites would be a good start...

PLP

They may need to get a thesaurus out first Ed. :-)

Ed

If you found it somewhat peculiar when I commented on the biodiversity and natural cycle with regards to the regional government, I can explain.

bcb

Please don`t.

Ed with respect do you think we are all a bunch of idiots? if we want to know or learn about a subject i am sure everyone is more than able to look things up for themselves?.

I`m sure your a nice bloke and that but can you please stop hijacking these forums to carry out your desire to try and educate people on things that are obviously of great interest to you but have very little or nothing to do with the original subject.

Rustylink

"It was in the interest of good governance. We shouldn't be deciding things without a proper report before the States."

I fail to see what new element a 'proper' report on Sunday Trading Restraints can bring to the States of Guernsey. This approach is simply a method of kicking the political can down the road and delaying the inevitable. The States have clearly shown on a simple and cost effective issue, their unwillingness to satisfy the will of the people.

The responsibility of political office is to lead constructive change, particularly when the abolition of antediluvian regulations imposes no costs.

Are we led by political cowards or by men imbued with a vision of a better future? Hopefully the next round of debate on Sunday Trading will find more Deputies and Ministers willing to make a self-evident decision.

Town Dweller

Such a shame all those Islanders who want to buy a pot of paint from B+Q on a Sunday, because the shop is only open 11 hours a day, six days a week, have been denied their freedom of choice.

Of course if shopping on a Sunday had been allowed, the 10% of my wages after my mortgage, utility bills etc had been taken out, would have magically increased to 12% and the extra 2% would have boosted the economy no end.

Oh yes, I've just woken up and living in Deputy Hadley's dream land.

Spartacus

Town dweller

Do you seriously believe that everyone spends all of their disposable income every week? Do you also seriously think all the disposable income of Guernsey people is only ever spent in Guernsey?

Many people shop when they have time to consider purchases and browse for ideas to add to their wish lists, these days that is evenings and weekends for many and that means internet shopping or on weekends away. Much of Guernsey disposable income therefore leaves our economy.

If ALL shopkeepers (not just the privileged few) were permitted AND decided to open on Sundays, more money would be spent in Guernsey and more retail businesses would open in Guernsey. Profits would increase if positive strategies were adopted by retailers.

If Guernsey had something more to offer in the way of tax free shopping and Sunday facilities, perhaps more weekend visitors would be attracted here too.

The unnecessary report will be done, the unnecessary cost will be paid, Sunday trading will be deregulated without doubt and then Guernsey can move forward. As usual Guernsey has the obstacle of the small minded parochial attitudes of sentimental wishful thinkers delaying progress. If that attitude had ever prevailed here we would not have cars in Guernsey let alone a runway. Progress is unstoppable it cannot and should not be controlled.

Ray

Spartacus for CM

By the way have you been absent de l'isle?

KEITH BROOKFIELD

Spartacus,you are totally correct,and if all these so called anti sunday brigade would think about all the people,ie airline pilots and staff to get them off this island at weekends to jet off on their holidays, maybe they would wake up to modern day living.

Neil Forman

Spartacus

Completely agree with you.

And that is rare;-))

kevin

Are our States completely incapable of making any decisions at all without expensive and time consuming reviews or reports?

I thought we paid them to make decisions themselves - how wrong I was.

Vannilla

Kevin

You are the only one to nail it. No, these states members are like ALL before them- the delegation of the decision making process to expensive consultants is an essential way to put decisions at arms length. I used to go into a padded room to scream but after 16 years of living here I'm over it.

Ray

kevin

They did make a decision.They voted against Hadley's requete by a clear margin

Thankfully those who voted to not even debate the requete did not get their way ( but their names have been noted for future reference)

Stewart threw in the bone of promising to report back before March 2016 very late in the debate to steady the nerves of a few waverers after some good speeches, especially by Matt Fallaize who highlighted some of the sections in the present law which should go into a Guernsey 'You couldn't make it up'Xmas book ( Ed there's an idea on how to make a few bob with a little bit of research)

Because Stewart's report will probably come back very close to the 2016 island wide election it will be interesting to see how many of this week's twenty eight contre voters change their mind for any one of the possible 32,000 reasons

Ed

Spartacus,

I wouldn't disparage the parochial nature of the island. I personally believe that we need at least one place within this world to retain its sense of being a self-contained, provincial community that is excluded from mainstream society. However, I am still attempting to develop a justification for such a notion.

SF

Not surprisingly, the Hadley requete failed to gain sufficient support. But I wonder who the 28 believe they are saving a "special" day for. Those ranged against the requete appeared mired in religious dogma which has no place in a secular society.

I imagine they all expect the following on Sunday:

To travel back from holiday on Sunday;

Expect the emergency services to turn up when called;

Expect the vet to help their pets when ill (as happened to me recently);

To boil water for a cup of tea;

Telephone their friends and relatives;

Log on to do their banking and shopping;

etc., etc., etc.

It sounded very much to me that Deputy Stewart was bounced into making the commitment to conduct a review before the end of this States in 2016. Small comfort for those in favour of deregulation. I hope that Deputy Hadley will be monitoring this promise and ensure that the promise is not forgotten or subject to any backsliding.

As someone involved in the issuing of Sunday Trading licences, I believe it to be a bureaucratic farce much in need of streamlining or better still dumped.

Ed

Ray,

If you're referring to me, I am sorry but I lack the eagerness to embark upon fresh enterprises unless it is something that I am truly fervent about. Anyway, I don't display a great deal of interest in commercial enterprise.

Ray

OK Ed,but you DO seem to have a fervent intention of changing your gravatar with almost every post,unless of course there are lots of Ed's out there?

concerned

This is getting boring now. Just put the issue to bed once and for all.

Arnie

In my opinion and I'm sure a lot of others will agree, the Island should move with the times and religion should keep it's nose out.

If the whole island followed a particular faith in which Sunday was a day of rest then so be it. But as the island and so much of the world is now turning into an international community, then this becomes more difficult. Different cultures and faiths all living together. I believe in freedom of choice and faith, everyone has a right to choose which paths they follow and I respect that.

If you choose to follow a culture or religion then so be it and you ablide by their rules. If you choose not to, then it should not be preached upon you.

I for one agree with Sunday opening. If a shop wants to open, has staff wanting to work (obviously not pressured to work), then why shouldn't they get the option to open? If the majority of the population don't want it they will vote with their feet and not shop, then the shops will realise there is no profit to be made and no longer open on a Sunday. But the option should still be there.

If you want a day of rest, then stay at home or go to Church and don't go to the shop! If you want to shop then go for it.

I really don't know what all the fuss is about. It's not rocket science!

Sara Thompson

The vote last week only delayed the inevitable and Deputy 'DJ Kev' Stewart is only committing us to spending more money on a proper report because it doesn't fit in with his own ideas. Toys and prams, Kev?

Even the douzaines want something done, although they will probably want everything shut!