Pope has resigned

National media are reporting that Pope Benedict XVI has resigned.

Pope Benedict XVI presides over a Celebration of Catholic Education at St Mary's University College, in south-west London, Twickenham, London, during his visit in 2010. (Picture by PA)
Pope Benedict XVI presides over a Celebration of Catholic Education at St Mary's University College, in south-west London, Twickenham, London, during his visit in 2010. (Picture by PA)

National media are reporting that Pope Benedict XVI has resigned.

The Vatican has reportedly announced that he will step down on 28 February.

The Guernsey Press will be seeking reaction from the local Catholic church to this news for a report in tomorrow's newspaper.

Comments for: "Pope has resigned"

vic gamble

...not surprised...he looked too gay for that job.

More Local Than You

Shame on you for such a pathetic comment.

Heggarty

...he is either saying "The chair is too big for me"..or..."I am too small for the chair"....think the latter may be the truth!

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Heggarty

Possibly " Hands up all in favour of gay marriage"

markB

I don’t blame him for retiring he has had it tuff, what with having to deal with all the child sex scandals the catholic church has been going through.

Veritas

The Holy Father has resigned on health grounds, there is a precedent, albeit from the year 1295, but Pope Benedict XVI always made it subconciously clear that were he to become incapacitated, he would step down from this office. He is both radical and stubborn! The Catholic Church will most certainly be shocked, saddended, and dismayed, but already this has been described as an "act of self-sacrifice" by a man not prepared to see the Church suffer as a result of his increasing frailty.

Benedict XVI's achievements as pontiff have been remarkable, renewing the worship of the Church, reconnecting it to the deep piety of the past; creating new links with non-Catholics by bringing ex-Anglicans into the fold. Surely he feels now unable to continue ruling.

As a Catholic I of course feel greatly saddened. Not only is he a great theologian, but also a remarkable pastor. May the remainder of his life be a time of much joy and peace. Thanks be to God for the ministry of Benedict XVI.

Oh Dear

Yep telling Africans that contraceptives were evil (thus helping the spread of HIV) then of course the paedophilia scandal that came about... Great theoligan.

Tim

Oh dear Veritas watch the debate, one speaker linked below on the question " Is the catholic church a force for good "? the rest of the speakers are in the right hand menu, including high ranking pro church members for balance.

Lets ask the experts on both sides of the fence in a world famous debate

The audience placed their votes at the beginning and at the end. Factually and objective it changed my view of the Church.

Jesus entered the market, and threw out the rich traders dressed in gold and wealth. What would he think of the Vatican's palaces and the fine cloths and pomp and ceremony by the bishops, cardinals and billions of dollars in fine art and investments.

Very stimulating, powerful, deep and uncomfortable for the church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQHxkX-tyYU

Tim.

Island Wide Voting

On a gold plated pension ?

Dani

Someone has made a prediction that the next pope will not be female. I think thats a pretty safe bet.

plp

Dani, if you have a mo google Pope Joan.

Dani

I have heard about her. Though thank you for pointing her out. She really has an interesting story. It is debated on whether she is legend or real. Roman Catholics say she was made up by the Protestant church to discredit and embarrass them. Scholars debate her existence also. It's said she got the position by pretending to be a man and the most popular ending to her story is she gave birth so an angry mob killed her by stoning her to death or tied her to the back of a horse that dragged her through the streets.

markB

Why don’t they get someone younger next time, more with it.

Ed

markB

Can your claim that a younger pope will be more advantageous be extensively substantiated with fully accurate corroboration ? Although I quite often reject some traditional phenomena, I think that, from a philosophical persepective, it would be both fitting and wise to have an aged pope since, theoretically, one acquires more wisdom with age.

The fact that I have conservative views with concern to beliefs associated with religious hierarchies, but rather revolutionary views with regards to other aspects of civilisation, suggests that I am a political syncretic- something I think is most advantageous to society. This outlook, it's idealistic, but not impossible to put into practice.

Gilthead

Ed "...theoretically, one acquires more wisdom with age."

Let's hope so!

markB

When I say young I mean 60 something, someone who understands the modern world we live in, know’s his a**e from his elbow .. so to speak!

Confused.com

Ed,

I have to admit to failing to read or understand your last missive.

The only thing you have said of any import or interest are the immortal words "theoretically, one acquires more wisdom with age". A pity you don't listen to your own words and stop trying to show us how "clever" you are while you are waiting for that defining moment when you acquire more wisdom.

Ed

Confused.com

Notice how I have never explicitly said that I am intelligent. I don't know if you realise, but there are some contributors on this site that have a writing style similar to mine, namely Spartacus and, occasionally, Deputy Matt Fallaize, so I wouldn't use my choice of expression as corroboration for the belief that I make myself seem erudite. Equally, I don't think you should use my choice of vocabulary to support this claim of yours; none of the words I use are in the list of the English Lanuage's most rarely used words. Though you didn't explicitly say that I was using such language to make myself appear intelligent, there is a strong probability that you are insinuating so.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using scientific or philosophical topics to illuminate some of the details on these pages or in the posts made by contributors as they illustrate the significance of such topics with concern to the larger environemnt and human existence, the value of which many are inclined to overlook or underestimate. The issue is that certain individuals, most likely those who want to engage in some light repartee or are less keen on viewing the situation from a profoundly philosophical or scientific perspective, dismiss such ideas as either the work of a madcap, troll or egotist.

Anyway, I am going to stop now, otherwise I would have been accused of infesting this forum with ostensibly half baked concepts and idiocy.

Anyway,

Island Wide voting

Ed

You say ... "none of the words I use are in the list of the English Lanuage’s most rarely used words."

I for one was not aware that such a list existed and I'd be surprised if many other TIG users were aware of it

Is that where you source some of your

often quite weird terminology ?

Nige

Oh dear, his Popeyness has knocked it on the head. Do you think he's in line for a golden hand (of God) shake.

Castiel

He's just can't remember which arm he used to use in the salute when he was in be Hitler youth.

vic gamble

...His Holiness the Nazi Youth Child is stepping down...one hopes it will not be the goose step..perhaps Ed could apply for the post and confuse everyone, as it was before and seemingly always will be...there are Popes and there are Dopes....it is sometimes hard to differentiate between the two...

Amary

Maybe he's had a better offer from 'I'm a Celebrity get me out of here'

Dot Comma

Apparently this all stems from the FSA's 'horse lasagne' investigation which broadened to look into complaints received about KFC.

A spokesman said that there could be no further place for a Rat Zinger in today's consumer conscious society.

Benny & Reg

Not Taupin & Dwight.

It cannot have escaped the notice of any good Catholic boys that the Pope's reign finishes on 28th February 2013; the same day as the current Seneschal of Sark.

Divine coincidence or Vatican intervention?

Benny & Reg

Not Taupin & Dwight.

It cannot have escaped the notice of any good catholic boys that the Pope's reign finishes on 28th February; the same day as the current Seneschal of Sark.

Divine coincidence or Vatican intervention?

Ed

Benny and Reg

That is the wonder of such mysteries- I think it is much more excitable to derive independent conclusions through little investigation , rather than to discover the truth of something. You could do some research as excitement can be generated through probing different aspects of such a phenomenon and use them to either shed light on a mystery or to give credence to or refute a theory.

Oh Dear

Ed....what the hell are you on?

Ed

Oh Dear

I am on nothing, but would you think the same about a 19th Century philosophers essay, for example, ? I am not saying that I'm a philosopher, but I thought I would like to contribute something different- perhaps slightly quirky- to TIG.

scarlett

Unfortunately, not on a one way ticket to a place very very far from here that lacks Internet access.

Oh Dear

19th Century philosophers made sense.

The comment made appeared to be a general one. The Seneschal and the Pope finishing on the same day is mere coincidence.

To speculate further would be a pointless and trivial exercise that would not conjure up any data of interest.

:-)

Ed

Why no further speculation, Oh Dear ? The devotion of time to theorisation creates excitement/stimulation.

Oh Dear

The reason that I would not excogitate this any longer is because it would prove to be a pointless (possibly lengthy) exercise that would display nothing more than a coincidental occurence.

I agree that devoting time to outstanding ideas is a very worthy pass time. I am just explaining that this isn't a reason for speculation.

plp

Perhaps the Popes resignation was caused by a political "butterfly effect" with Sark the catalyst? ;)

JohnT

Now the fun begins, I can imagine its going to be a hell of a job finding someone to replace him that has a squeaky clean past.

Phil

Is it a coincidence that the German Catholic Church has recently terminated an inquiry into historic child abuse, something that the former Pope may well have been implicated in (as he was in US investigations)?

Can Tony Blair apply for the vacancy, he's a Catholic now isn't he and I'm sure the middle east could do with a break from him?

PLP

Do you really want to see his inane grin all over the place again?

vic gamble

...Paul I never saw the Pope as having an inane grin...it was more of a kind of evil smirk...well he did try and conceal child abuse within the church...Tony Blair as Pope is highly unlikely...many too many past sins...what we need is a clean living upstanding boy like Anthony Webber !!

He could write realms of stuff from the Vatican, just slyly and occasionally getting in a mention that he was "once a politician" and that we are forgiven for stopping him in that God declared process.

plp

I meant Tony Blair's inane grin....there are few politicians in the world I trust less than that guy.

Veritas

It is understandable that the Holy Father finds it a strain, especially at his advanced age, and obviously this is something he will have prayed about and reflected upon for some time. And it seems that he deems it best to hand over that stewardship swiftly, rather than allow a prolonged period of increasing ill-health and fevered speculation about his successor. It seems that it was a shock even to those closest to him. The Holy Father will be the first Pope in 600 years to renounce the Papacy. Nevertheless, the Church does not have "policies" or "programmes" which change with the shifting winds of popular opinion. She teaches Truths which endure for eternity. So the Press can save its breath and stop speculating on whether the new Pope will "allow" female ordination, gay "marriage," contraception, and such like. He won't. Christ promised that he would be with the Church, to the end of the ages, and that the gates of hell would not prevail against her.

Jeff

Yes, and we have always been at war with Eurasia.

The wikipedia article on the history of the Catholic Church's attitude towards slavery is particularly interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery

Unless slavery isn't as important a moral issue as gay marriage or contraception?

JohnT

One has to wonder why in 600 years he was the first Pope to renounce the Papacy.

Why is it that God helped all the others through to the end but not this one.

If he had prayed about this and reflected upon it for some time, where was God when he needed him.

A.J.

All good Christians, as I understand, do not pray to save themselves, but pray for others

John

As a Catholic I am full of admiration for the present Pope and I admire his coursge at resigning.

I am ashamed about all the scandals and I hope everything possible will be done to rectify the damage done through paedophilia. All abusive priests should be banished and those bishops who covered up their actions should be answerable to the courts. Our local Diocese of Portsmouth sadly does not have the cleanest record in this respect.

The Magdalen Laundries scandal also does not make comfortable reading. I hope our local Sisters of Mercy were not part of this atrocious abuse.

Veritas

Agreed John! But the Diocese of Portsmouth under the firm and faithful leadership of Philip Egan, our new bishop, and acquitance, will surely not have a repeat of past indiscretions.

I'm sure with your last sentence, you are looking to create some gossip perhaps. The dear Mercy Sisters in Guernsey are not of the same ilk as those who were accustomed to such evil acts in the past.

vic gamble

Veritas....you must see numerous pigs flying over the roof tops of St. Peter Port?