Uber-style inter-island air service months away

INTER-ISLAND air travel seems set for a revolution through a new service being launched from Guernsey over the next few months.

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The men behind Waves, the company which is launching an inter-island air service from a technology base. Left to right, Captain Simon Crook, board aviation advisor; Nick Magliocchetti, CEO; Darren Vogel, CXO; and Captain Matt Bisson, COO. (Picture by Steve Sarre, 17184416)

Waves will look to harness latest technology and use a robust Cessna aircraft to deliver a hybrid scheduled service mixed with Uber-style travel on demand, with basic flight costs cheaper than most currently available.

The man leading the project is serial entrepreneur Nick Magliocchetti, who moved to the island last year, primarily to launch a new technology investment fund.

He said he was attempting to resolve a problem which had become obvious to him in meeting many local people before and since his arrival.

‘In the last six months I’ve spoken to a thousand people and without a doubt every single person has said that connections to and from Guernsey are the number one challenge in living in the island.

‘But I’m not here to ruffle feathers, I want to make a massive difference. I see a lot of opportunity in Guernsey but at the moment it’s not being achieved. I hope we can bring people together to solve some of the island’s problems with the use of technology.’

Funding is being sought for the project, but Mr Magliocchetti said that fundraising was nearly closed. He hopes to launch trial and freight services in the next few months, with passenger services starting during the summer, using a 14-seater Cessna 208B Grand Caravan EX aircraft secured on lease.

He said he did not want to be seen as a competitor to the established airlines serving the island.

See today's Guernsey Press for the full story

Comments for: "Uber-style inter-island air service months away"

pulix

Single engine over water - not safe

markB

Good point

Alvin

Just over water ? Meaning over land no problem ?

Statistically speaking I bet it is still safer than driving.

markB

yes its a dangerous drive to Jersey.

pulix

Several years ago I survived an emergency landing after the engine failed in a single engined aircraft. Fortunately this incident occurred over land. Had the incident occurred over the sea experts told me that I would almost certainly have been killed. Granted this proposed aircraft has a turbine engine and a good safety record but it remains a single engine aircraft and therefore not worth the risk to fare paying passengers when travelling over water.

pulix

PS: Without a doubt the Channel Islands require improved transportation links but this is not progress with safety. A twin engined aircraft please.

PRESTON

How old was the plane you were in Pulix and where were you flying? I've seen some pretty crappy old single engined planes in less regulated places like african countries. I would never fly in them. These guys are using brand new planes and the Cessna Grand Caravan is pretty well proven it seems. Even the navy and military use them - even as gunships!

Grockle

It obviously is safe otherwise they wouldn't be given a licence to operate passenger services.

Chris

May be wrong but I thought single engine passenger planes were discouraged by the licensing authorities?

Will it have dispensation for a single pilot?

These Caravans are well used in the outback, for example Alaska, but not usually in Europe for scheduled ops.

It gives me no pleasure to say in my opinion it's quite likely never to start operations as set out in the paper today.

Banned again!

Single engine over water - not safe??

Just as well the RAF didn't know that in 1940 sonny otherwise you'd be goddam fluent in German!!

Island Wide Voting

Not necessarily so!

If the Health and Safety industry had fully understood the danger to the employees in 1940 they would surely have launched a robust case in the Crown Court,High Court,Court of Appeal,Supreme Court of the United Kingdom before finally taking it all the way up to the dizzy heights of the European Court of Human rights where judges from Andorra, Macedonia, Azerbaijan, Montenegro (am I still allowed to say that?) and San Marino would have put a stop to such madness

beast

Great idea, about time a challenge was made to blue islands\flymaybe and aurigny's inter island service.

Private ferry service next anyone??

Ferry Man

We have a private ferry service, its called Condor!

Charlie G

With respect Ferry Man...wrong,very wrong.

You need to do some serious research into the meaning of a private ferry service.

Condor is as far away from a private ferry service as this Earth is from the Edge of space....fact.

If you want to learn more about the meaning of a true private ferry service i suggest you look deep into the following competant and professional operators profiles...Fjord Lines And Color Lines Norway.

Any public transport service owned and financed by a Bank is everything but private !

Ferry Man

Charlie G

It is you that is wrong.

Owners of Condor are a Bank which is private is Private, unless it is RBS/Loyds, owned by the UK Govn, and for your information many ferry companies are owned by banks. Wightlink, Red Funnel, Isle of Man Stream Packet, Northlink. P&O is owned by a Sovereign Trust. if they are not owned by banks, they have to rely on them very much.

markB

Okay, I like the idea, but what is he banging on about "New Technology" for?? a Cessna is a Cessna

how does new technology come in to it?? answers on a post card please!!

Alvin

The booking service using apps and that ??

Eric

Use Uber, all will become clear.

No schedule, no complex booking process, just a big "Pick me up" button.

Insider

Can they pick me up from St. Peter Port?

markB

Via the Rohais Chinese??

Kittycat

An Uber-style taxi service would also be quite nice...

thames

Well done for attempting to solve a problem ( rather than just moaning). Good luck in your new venture!

Alvin

It all sounds too fantastic, too unbelievable, to be true.

But I hope it does work out and does get off the ground, :-)

I certainly would be up for it... looks very interesting.

markB

well they wouldn't do it for the fun of it??

Alvin

If it works and is economical then I would definitely be interested. If he makes money, and I am satisfied and save money then what is there to complain about ?

kev

Anyhow, so many hoops to jump through, before they can even take off.

Wont happen. Not negative, just a realist

Eric

If the costs are <£130 return GCI-JER then we will use it. Any more and our clients will refuse to pay.

If it allows billing to include references (e.g.; client IDs) then we will probably use it a great deal.

Single engine is a light concern, but outweighed by the ease of use, speed of turnaround at the airport, and potential flexibility of service that would allow good chunks of working time in each island within a single day.

If they could sort out a sea-plane (so we could cut out the trips to/from airports) then costs could rise by £40 return without impacting overall cost, but I recognise that as a pipe dream!

Decision height

As always Eric, the inter island passenger market concerns time and convenience over safety.

I agree that the PT6 fitted to the 208 has proven itself over millions of hours "on wing".

Safety should always come first, not ease of use, turnaround time or flexibility.

Eric

I would hope that the licensing authorities were sufficiently risk-averse to ensure that only a plane with an excellent safety record was allowed to operate.

And having flown in single-pilot Islanders & Trilanders for decades, I'd have to say that the state of the pilot is of much greater concern to me than the state of the plane!

In all seriousness I know that safety will always be a concern, but it wouldn't be sufficient to stop us from using the service.

Alvin

As I have said before, I would be interested in using the service, regardless if the aircraft has a single engine or not - more important is the age and maintenance history of the aircraft - but I would not be prepare to pay more than Flybe or Aurigny. 130 quid for a return to Jersey or Alderney is higher than what is currently available with Flybe and Aurigny. Both offer return fares between 80 and 120 quid, whilst with Aurigny's top Alderney fare of 122 quid return is fully flexible.

A day return needs to be in the range of 60 - 70 quid, with one way fares in the region of a max of 40 quid for it to be interesting to me.

Eric

I would love it to be £60-70 return but I can't imagine that working for them commercially.

Using the Uber model would see them with very low volumes of pax per sector, so I can imagine the pricing being higher than FlymaybeBlueIslands, in which case its a definite no-go for us - clients will not pay for flexibility.

An Al Forever

Take off the shackles island wide to much protection and scared of free trade,its a big world out there,when you have the views of Inder as a deputy we must really despair and the likes of Ross beating the jungle drum and hes just plain joe soap.

Shocking

Victor Meldrew

So far the idea and the prices quoted in the media sound excellent. Its a shame the photo is a bit misleading, it doesn't show a Cessna 208 !

alexandra

Unlike Uber the costs are high and are just an alternative to what is on offer at present.

The preferred option would would be Condor offering day trips like we became accustomed to before the arrival of the rust bucket.

no1native

This sounds like pie in the sky to me. How can he say that he "does not what to be seen as a competitor to the established airlines"? The minute he starts trading he will be in direct competition with Aurigny etc, who will lower their prices just long enough to see him off then as before, hike them up again to cover their loses.

So we will have gained a big fat zero!

Island_Ranger

So we'll be where we are now. So what's the harm in trying?

Easy to think of problems. Less people willing to offer solutions.

Alvin

Seems that Derek Coates is more worried ! Read his letter in Letter of the Day !

Island_Ranger

Good on them for offering a solution to a growing problem.

We can sit and poke holes in it and I'm sure the majority will (Aurigny very quick to invoke a sense of fear about single engined aircraft over water, surprise surprise). But we need more creativity like this to drive forward the services available to islanders. We've all seen what a lack of competition can do...

The islands need to get out of the mentality of looking for the problems and instead realise that every problem is an opportunity. And being such a small socio-economic environment, we are extremely well placed to be flexible, innovative and pioneering in meeting those opportunities.

mash

You have to have two motors on a passenger boat that will float

dc

Firstly if you don't trust a single engine plane then don't fly on it, no one is forcing you. Most crashes on aircraft are due to poor maintenance, age or pilot error.

Secondly if you listen to the naysayers at Aurigny and BlueIslands of course they are going to try and put people off. Not forgetting both these airlines have and still use some very old planes on their routes! Trislanders stuck together with glue, and lets not forget the BlueIsland ATR that had the collapsed undercarriage at Jersey!

From what I've heard the aircraft being used in this service are new and leased so will be maintained to the highest standard.

Like any new and innovative startup they are going to ruffle feathers and upset the established players so good luck to them.

More choice should hopefully bring lower fares and I'm sure the inter island sports events that have previously been cancelled due to rubbish transport will welcome this new startup.

kev

HD Ferries anyone....

Alvin

I am waiting for the letter of Blue Islands to appear in today's press but the edition has still not been uploaded online.

GP... wake up please.

Alvin

I see that Derek Coates letter has appeared : I wonder if he will get the GP to pull my reply !

Alvin

This is an interesting read... http://cessna.txtav.com/en/cessna-logbook?id=4B6FBE23B5A8467E9CFAB535AC27EB06

GM

Alvin

A very interesting read. I just wish there was a twin-engine option.....

Don Tramp

Great idea Im in.

Res1gned

At long last something really positive and the only voices against are those who have been using outdated systems. Derek Coates would do well to surround himself with half the airline experience Nick Magliochetti has organised for this venture.

I like flybe's comment that this venture is the first of its kind anywhere in the world. New aircraft, new IT systems and they are going to watch developments closely to see what happens. Also wishing them the very best in their endeavours.

Derek Coates letter reads like somebody who either really doesn't understand what is happening or more likely is jealous he didn't have the foresight to try anything apart from the standard aviation package.

This is a venture based on true old fashioned Guernsey entrepreneurial endeavour. Take a basic idea chose the best ideas that work and adapt. Shame it is not a Guern leading it, but maybe, just maybe, Nick M has more old fashioned Guern values than we realise and we have somebody who can exploit and/or reawaken that flame which throughout our history has held Guerns in good stead.

Maybe we have a new modern "Jack Walker" in our presence, wouldn't that be something to quietly gloat about!!!!

Major Denis Bloodnok

True enough Derek Coates is no Jack Walker (of Walker Aviation). Not even a landlord of the Rovers Return like the other fictional Jack Walker

Major Denis Bloodnok

None of the inter-island options are particularly attractive safety wise - a single engine aircraft as Alvin points out can go down over land as well as water (see the Buddy Holly memorial at Clearlake), a Trislander with fixed undercarriage flipping over upon hitting the water (try getting out of one of those upside down strapped in with head and torso under water) or a thirty plus year old Blue Islands aircraft - lets face it even their overhead lockers are taped shut with broken do not use written across half of them.

The Flybe operated Exeter and Birmingham flights would be the best way to get to Jersey and the new Dornier to Alderney. Both using up to date well maintained aircraft with two pilots operated by proven quality airlines