Nervy Green Lions fluff New Year lines

TONY VANCE believes that ‘nervousness’ played a part as an inept Guernsey FC were beaten on home soil for the fourth time this season.

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Jake Andrews scored on his GFC home debut, but South Park left Footes Lane with the three points. (Picture by Adrian Miller)

South Park left Footes Lane with a deserved 3-1 victory yesterday afternoon to add further Ryman South woe to the struggling Green Lions.

Jake Andrews’ goal on his home debut was not enough as Joe Jackson’s double and Dale Burgess won it for the visitors, who are safely in mid-table.

It is a different story for GFC and their manager Vance, whose side remain five points above the relegation zone after Chatham Town were beaten 3-0 at Cray Wanderers.

However, four away games in the next five mean that January could yet be the defining month of the campaign for the Sarnians – in the wrong possible way.

‘It is a massive month for us and we haven’t started it well at all, so we will wait and see now what mentality the players have in the coming weeks,’ explained Vance.

‘We can’t complain about the result today, we got what we deserved, because we didn’t create chances to score goals and then made errors at the other end to concede two goals.’

  • Full match report in Tuesday’s Guernsey Press.

Comments for: "Nervy Green Lions fluff New Year lines"

Rupert Walthumstow

What is there to be nervous about?

Iknowmore

Time for these hopeless 'stars' to jump from a sinking ship like Allen did. Surely he's not the only one to have seen the writing on the wall. Can't imagine what Bristol City loan stars Messi and Ronaldo must think of it all. Also at what point the 'board'

TheLocal2

Oh dear, so the anti-GFC brigade are out in force? A bit of a bad patch and the cynics can't wait to dive in. No one said it would be easy in the Ryman leagues.

PLP

I think the problem is some people got carried away when GFC started out and were winning every game by 4 or 5 goals. Not surprisingly now they're in a higher league the competition is getting tougher.

The club is simply finding its level and people need to manage their expectations accordingly. Perhaps some people think they should be aiming for the Premier League?

This will be a good acid test for the longevity of GFC. It's easy to motivate yourself to either play for or watch a team that's drubbing the opposition week in, week out. Now that things are getting tougher will players be prepared to put the graft in and will people keep buying tickets?

Iknowmore

Of course they won't. Players are already giving it away. One went on holiday. They know they're well out of their depth. Once the foolish fairweather fans in their ridiculous green clothing figure it out it'll all go down the tube, despite most of them having never watched or cared about football before the heroic green lions and their god awful merchandise came along. Apart from the loan stars Messi and Ronaldo all the players might have to play local football again where they'll be found out there too, again

Trudie

While you're entitled to your somewhat angry opinion there's no need to be offensive. I and others like me are not foolish fair weather fans nor do I consider the merchandise, which was partly designed in conjunction with Specsavers "God awful". What harm is GFC doing to you, nobody's forcing you to support them or wear any of the merchandise.

Personally I welcome the opportunity to watch local football talent play on a regular basis and pit themselves against other UK teams. It's a great opportunity for island footballers to have which I'm sure they appreciate never mind all the voluntary hours put in to keep it going by very decent hardworking people. If you're that offended about the whole concept instead of moaning about it (which seems to be an island trait) why not come up with something better? I guess we'll be left waiting!

Oh and nobody I know begrudges Ross Allen a break after 5 yrs he wanted to visit the southern hemisphere in their summertime, he's clearly stated his intention to come back. How disappointing for you!

Beanjar

Quite right, Trudie. This 'Iknowjack' person doesn't need to take any interest in GFC and can keep his ignorant and offensive comments to himself.

Iknowmore

And if the 'board'

maisonpilleverte@gmail.com

plp. some very good points. i admit, from the start i said gfc would get to the premier rymans, i said up and down on a regular basis, i was wrong, not to reach the rymans premier is a failure, i know a reasonable bit about this league and a half decent team should reach that level. I admit i have seen a few gfc games when in guernsey, and was not over impressed, and it has certainly destroyed the standard of guernsey football as a whole. Is it the coaching team ? who knows, but who would take their places, but coaches have only so long before new faces are required, while successful its ok, but no success and players start to question them. As i have said before, big mistake bringing in two players from bristol city, this was a local venture, to improve local young players and it hasnt, a happy new year to you all. laurie carre

Insider

And you've noticed ho much better the other teams have got, regularly playing players on dual contract basis from National league sides?

Insider

Watching all of this from France.....

Johno

Insider

Your comment is bang on. I have been watching since the start and have seen a huge improvement in the quality of the sides in Ryman South.

Players are dropping down to these leagues as more money becomes available.

Only Guernsey FC & Corinthian Casuals are truly amateur teams, so I have huge admiration for the time and commitment of the Coaches , players and Directors etc.

Whilst recent results have been disappointing it has been great to see young players like Thomas Dodds, Robbie Leg, Liam Mahon, Josh Addison, Jacob Fallaize, Kyle Smith, Carlton Gauvain etc etc improving their game to a much higher degree than purely playing Priaulx Football.

The club is here to stay even if they do get relegated (which they won't) and long may it continue.

Rupert Walthumstow

Truly amateur, except for the two recent signings of course ;)

Trudie

Johno well said, Rupert you just can't help yourself can you?!

Often Confused

Trudie, Rupert's only stating facts, they can't be ignored in conjunction with the post above.

jjlehto

Are GFC paying Bristol City for the 2 loan players? I very much doubt it, so if GFC aren't paying any of their players I presume they are still considered an amateur team?

Insider

To the best of my knowledge the players are NOT being paid by GFC.

Trudie

Often confused, apologies I just thought Rupert was been sarcastic as usual

Often Confused

No problem Trudie. jj, I suppose it depends how you define things, Guernsey is an amateur football team if it doesn't pay anyone however the team/squad isn't entirely amateur as there are 2 Bristol City professionals in it.

Rupert Walthumstow

Classic Trudie.

maisonpilleverte@gmail.com

Insider i did say i had seen a few games, any other comments, another no-name. i did think this was for comments and we all have our views. i did my time in gsy foot ball , and am entitled to my opinions, did you ??

Insider

Where did I say you shouldn't have a say? Simply challenging your view. Yes have done many, many years in local sport and still do... Do you accept the quality has changed?

Insider

What difference would my name make to the argument? Yours only has an email address....

Iknowmore

Trudie, this whole charade has damaged local football which has had and will continue to have many more volunteers than the network of back scratchers at gfc. And when it all burns to the ground itll be those volunteers who'll be there to pick up the pieces, not the corporate wannabes on the gfc 'board'. And what has an affiliation with specsavers got to do with anything. The merchandise is god awful, specsavers or not. The only way they can anything like adequate replacements for the players who gave up is to abandon the locals it was created for and sign apparent professionals. What a fillip for Guernsey football that is

Rupert Walthumstow

Come on iknowmore, everyone knows that everything Specsavers does is brilliant and must not be challenged

#bleedgreen

Insider

Many of the board have and some still are been involved in local football for many years.. Likes of Mark Le Tissier & Jez Robin, really you think they are "corporate wannabes"?

Iknowmore

Why isn't the managers head on the block exactly? They're a shambles at the moment, odds on to get relegated and half the players are losing interest. Whilst it's apparently great these local youngest get a chance to play with the 'professionals' Ronaldo and Messi, it's blatantly obvious they're not good enough, the league table doesn't lie. A proper run club without the look after each other attitude in the boardroom would be trying to sort it out.

Trudie

I knowmore, re the merchandise it's a matter of opinion not fact, whether it's awful or not, what I meant was that GFC had the help of a design team from Specsavers which is a well respected organisation throughout the world, maybe you'll have a problem with them now.

I am shocked that you would describe the likes of Mark Le Tissier in such terms, a Guernseyman of great integrity that frankly the island is lucky to have. Is it so hard to believe nowadays that people put in the effort to something like this to do good rather than for their own ends? It has been set up as a not for profit charitable organisation and as far as I can see follows these aims.

I have experience of both local clubs and GFC and can see the positives of both and the efforts to try and improve the current situation at GFC. Moving players onto GFC also gives more talent coming through the chance to play at club level which again members of my family currently involved with football are happy with.

I know people have issues with GFC and its introduction but I don't see how trying to personally discredit the people on the Board without foundation is going to improve matters. Where is your proof of these accusations?

I am concerned about how angry you are about this and also dwelling on it in the early hours of the morning, can you try and focus on something positive that makes you happy in your life, (albeit you're entitled to your opinions) I mean this sincerely.

Beanjar

Another dumb comment from 'Iknowjack'. Just how many £millions per year do you think Tony Vance gets? Perhaps you can do better and are willing to give up five years of your life to produce something worthwhile for Guernsey? I doubt it, your type are all gob and no action.

Iknowmore

Righto champion. 'Produce something worthwhile' are you alright there? The clique have sabotaged Guernsey football and haven't achieved anything. The national team are still getting shown up in the muratti and their best players are giving it away left right and centre. They had to resort to signing bang averages loan professionals so no benefit to Guernsey there. And you and your fellow bobble hats can preach about how good these future stars are going to be when in fact they're not very good at all, despite the well trodden player pathways

Iknowmore

Righto champion. 'Produce something worthwhile' are you alright there? The clique have sabotaged Guernsey football and haven't achieved anything. The national team are still getting shown up in the muratti and their best players are giving it away left right and centre. They had to resort to signing bang averages loan professionals so no benefit to Guernsey there. And you and your fellow bobble hats can preach about how good these future stars are going to be when in fact they're not very good at all, despite the well trodden player pathways

Iknowmore

Righto champion. 'Produce something worthwhile' are you alright there? The clique have sabotaged Guernsey football and haven't achieved anything. The national team are still getting shown up in the muratti and their best players are giving it away left right and centre. They had to resort to signing bang averages loan professionals so no benefit to Guernsey there. And you and your fellow bobble hats can preach about how good these future stars are going to be when in fact they're not very good at all, despite the well trodden player pathways

jjlehto

Local football was dying before GFC. The top players were losing interest, and total crowds at Priaulx games over a weekend were a fraction of the gates GFC gets. Something had to be done, and whilst GFC hasn't been a total success and has obviously caused some issues, it is far better than the situation would have been if GFC hadn't existed.

As for the pathetic bitchiness at GFC fans, most of the individuals throwing insults haven't got a clue what it's like to be a real supporter of a real club, and probably support a Premier League giant from the comfort of their sofa.

Rupert Walthumstow

One does love a prawn sandwich. However I have been to support my club at many games. I can highly recommend the Platinum Box at the Etihad. Wouldn't bother with Turf Moor though.

Often Confused

I hear the pork scratchings in Wolverhampton are ace.

Trudie

I'm surprised you have the time to support any other club given the amount of time you spend slinging mud at GFC.

How about you stick with your club that is largely run for profit thanks to extracting exessive amounts of money from the likes of you (no doubt your hard earned cash) and I'll stick to supporting our own local home grown talent who play for no money just for the love of the game.

Rupert Walthumstow

Oh Trudie, Trudie Trudie, how little you know.

Fortunately for me granddaddy made several nice investments so neither my parents or I have ever had to work (nor will we ever have to), let alone hard. So I have quite a lot of spare time to spend "mud slinging" if I so choose, of which there has been none in this thread by the way.

The real question is, shouldn't you be hard at work?

Trudie

Oh Rupert, Rupert how little you know about me too! Very presumptuous of you to assume I need to work as well. Regardless of how you or I came into money it could still be spent on something better than giving it away to organisations that don't need it, I choose to spend my money more wisely and responsibly for future generations of my family ( like your grandfather did although he might have been better off spending it on himself seeing how you've turned out)

Weren't you the same person who was complaining about GFC hoovering up sponsorship a while back and that you needed to fund your own involvement in sport outside of the island? Was that such a hardship for you given Granddaddys funds?

This also doesn't tie up with your posting a while back about getting more involved with local sport and sponsoring it when you retired??

Anyway some of us have better things to do with our time than mudslinging/ goading / being sarcastic about something you apparently have no interest in, in any case.

Johno

Totally despair of some of the negativity on the island sometimes.

Maybe some people need to get out and enjoy themselves a bit more!

Try a GFC home game, never know it might just put a smile on your faces :)

Beanjar

I agree. I cannot understand these people who purport to be supporters of football in Guernsey but never miss a chance to gloat over any setback GFC has. It is pathetic and tiresome. If they don't like GFC they don't have to watch them play.

MajorMajor

I'm not really sure why GFC ever needed to limit itself to a locals-only policy. No other team needs to do that.

I'd never expect Guernsey FC to become an English league Monaco (a fun thought, though), but for football fans it's something extra to do of a weekend (or a Wednesday, etc.) and it does have the potential, at least, to bring people into and raise awareness of Guernsey.

Looking for bright side in the negativity, I guess the general anger means people are invested in the team?

Iknowmore

Luckily they've signed the next Roberto Carlos now. Great to see more local players benefitting from being out of their depth. Best tell the holidaymakers and the ones giving it away if they don't change their mind quick they'll have to sign for Bristol City just to get a game for GFC.

Ex Grammar boy

This is a comment I posted in response to a letter of the day headlined "Time for some new coaching talent at GFC" My opinions have not changed in the past month.

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December 6, 2016 10:58 pm

Since its inception, Guernsey FC has offered the best local players a standard of football far beyond anything they would have experienced in local leagues. The club has also enthused hundreds of spectators who would never have watched a local match except the Moratti. The club is brilliantly run by dedicated people and financially supported by many local sponsors.

The most amazing thing though is that they have survived in their current league using only players drawn from a population of 63,000 people. To my knowledge, Guernsey is the only team in their league who are purely amateur. Those of us who watch them regularly know just how good the opposition are, even those teams near the bottom end of the table. It is also common knowledge that when a team is struggling they bring in new players. Remember, there is no geographical limit on recruitment of players.

Most of the players who were in the Guernsey side from the start are still around to provide experience but there have been many injuries this season which has necessitated the introduction of younger players, some of whom most certainly show great promise for the future. Unfortunately, though, Guernsey FC have been struggling to field the right mix of youth and experience in many matches this season, particularly those played in the UK. As a purely amateur club, it is unreasonable to expect every player to always be available for away matches, particularly those played midweek.

I have mixed feelings about Guernsey bringing in players from outside of the island but if supporters want to witness football of the standard played in this league, then it is a sacrifice that might have to be made. Other teams in the league aren't concerned if a player lives locally. They will just pay the going rate to the players that will win them matches, regardless of where they live.

As for the manager and his team, they can only be as good as the players they have to work with and I think that Tony Vance can be extremely proud to have brought Guernsey FC to this level and one poor season - so far - is no reason to question his ability.. If your correspondent has any views on someone locally to take his place, maybe he/she could share them!

Ex Grammar boy

PS

Best for everyone if they do not respond to Iknowmore and Rupert Walthumstow as they're just winding you up - pathetic!

Trudie

Well put Ex Grammar Boy and agreed re those two, Rupert is not who he says he is as I have exposed in a previous post, he fits the definition of a troll.

We are all entitled to our own opinions as Laurie says below but not baseless unfounded accusations and offensive remarks of Iknowmore who uses the anonymity of this forum to do so ( he is to be pitied for his lack of self awareness in this regard) I will not give any more time to these two.

Iknowmore

That's a lot of big words for someone who went to such an appalling school

maisonpilleverte@gmail.com

ex grammer boy. good points, as you are aware i am not for gfc; but being of the old school, rightly or wrongly i remember the past great times of gsy football. I am sad that has all gone, even though i no longer live in gsy i still care about local football [ even though i get stupid comments from certain idiots on this forum,]. some of the comments on this forum are so childish you wonder at the brains in some of these people, 5o wouldnt it be good if we could stick to the thing we are talking about, not making comments that belong in the playground, I believe in what i write down, and if put in the right way i respect what others write down. But i will never forget the great times i had in local football, from the minis on a sat morning to coaching the muratti team, and every thing in between. Laurie Carre

Le Goubert

As a follower of the oval ball, the concept of GFC stands on it's own. The same as Guernsey Raiders.

Trouble with all professional sport no one wants to support, or can understand why people do support, 'losing' sides. Even Premiership Rugby wants to stop relegation to the Championship.

The Champions League is now as boring as Formula 1, a meaningless procession of group games until Real Madrid, Bayern Munich or Barcelona lift the trophy.

Guernsey FC have now hit the ceiling which was going to happen at sometime during their existence. What is pleasing is to see 6-700 locals turn out every other Saturday to watch young men and even boys pit their wits against UK footballers who are more skilful, powerful and faster than them.

There's no shame in coming second or twenty second if you are giving your all, which the manager and players seem to be doing week in week out.

The knockers on here should return to the privacy of their own living rooms and watch the predicatable so called cream of sport on SKY TV, and leave the merry bunch of GFC and Raiders supporters to watch local men and boys battle it out against superior opposition and get the occasional well earnt result.

Johno

Le Goubert

Most sensible comments I've heard so far. Well put.

Laurie is also entitled to his opinion and speaks some sense, but he is living very much in the past I'm afraid, things have moved on.

Island Wide Voting

Yes, very good post Le G

Have you got an anarchistic twin brother?

TheLocal2

Some good comments above, Rupert is obviously bitter about GFC, perhaps due to failure in his/her sporting achievements. I know a lot of effort has been put in to get the GFC concept off the ground and it's good to see a sport that had stagnated begin to push itself by competing nationally. It's noticeable how the criticism has gradually subsided (apart from the odd vocal Rupert!)

There is still sponsorship out there for those sports who try to find it...